Proposal to form alt.airports.uk.heathrow

[John Dundas]

alt.airports.uk.heathrow {tab} Heathrow Airport near London due to
have massive expansion in the next 20 years.
CHARTER: alt.airports.uk.heathrow discusses the proposed expansion of
Heathrow Airport over the next 20 or so tyears, including the
operating of Terminal 5, the new north / south railway link Airtrack,
the proposed Third Runway and Terminal 6 (necessitating the enforced
relocation of 35,00 or more local residents), and the involvment of
Ferrovial
the wholy privately Spanish owned BAA. Also included will be topics
on
Climate Change caused by unconstrained demand for cheap air travel.
The newsgroup will not be moderated. Binary, off-topic, spam and
advertising posts are not permitted. Discussion of hacks, cracks,
warez, serial numbers or the illegal exchange of copyrighted software
is banned.
JUSTIFICATION: There is considerable local opposition to the proposed
expansion, this is especially due to the lies and deceits from the
Government (DfT), and Spanish-owned BAA / Ferrovial. There needs to
be
forum via which these people can voice their concerns int eh public
domain.
There is currently no one group devoted to Heathrow Airport. These
messages were spread across about a dozen newsgroups and a central
repository would be convenient.
Thank you.

Hi
Sorry it just seems that you want to use the group to attack the owners of
BAA LHR. You have used this as your justification in starting the newsgroup.
Not very good IMHO.

[John Dundas]

On Dec 17, 4:36 pm, "John Dundas"

Post by John Dundas

alt.airports.uk.heathrow {tab} Heathrow Airport near London due to
have massive expansion in the next 20 years.
CHARTER: alt.airports.uk.heathrow discusses the proposed expansion of
Heathrow Airport over the next 20 or so tyears, including the
operating of Terminal 5, the new north / south railway link Airtrack,
the proposed Third Runway and Terminal 6 (necessitating the enforced
relocation of 35,00 or more local residents), and the involvment of
Ferrovial
the wholy privately Spanish owned BAA. Also included will be topics
on
Climate Change caused by unconstrained demand for cheap air travel.
The newsgroup will not be moderated. Binary, off-topic, spam and
advertising posts are not permitted. Discussion of hacks, cracks,
warez, serial numbers or the illegal exchange of copyrighted software
is banned.
JUSTIFICATION: There is considerable local opposition to the proposed
expansion, this is especially due to the lies and deceits from the
Government (DfT), and Spanish-owned BAA / Ferrovial. There needs to
be
forum via which these people can voice their concerns int eh public
domain.
There is currently no one group devoted to Heathrow Airport. These
messages were spread across about a dozen newsgroups and a central
repository would be convenient.
Thank you.

Hi
Sorry it just seems that you want to use the group to attack the owners of
BAA LHR. You have used this as your justification in starting the newsgroup.
Not very good IMHO.

Well some could hijack it and make it pro-BOAC or whatever it is. I
would do.
LOROL!!

LOL. I think its a great idea to have the newsgroup. I use LHR so it would
be good to keep uptodate with things at the airport but, come on you dont
need to use the words LIES & DECEITS to justify it. Its needed for
debate/discussion simple enough.

[Joe Curry]

On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 19:14:18 -0000, in alt.airports.uk.edinburgh

Post by John Dundas
LOL. I think its a great idea to have the newsgroup. I use LHR so it would
be good to keep uptodate with things at the airport but, come on you dont
need to use the words LIES & DECEITS to justify it.

The same could be said about your SHOUTED personal abuse in
alt.airports.uk.edinburgh?

[The Voice of EDI]

alt.airports.uk.heathrow {tab} Heathrow Airport near London due to
have massive expansion in the next 20 years.
CHARTER: alt.airports.uk.heathrow discusses the proposed expansion of
Heathrow Airport over the next 20 or so tyears, including the
operating of Terminal 5, the new north / south railway link Airtrack,
the proposed Third Runway and Terminal 6 (necessitating the enforced
relocation of 35,00 or more local residents), and the involvment of
Ferrovial
the wholy privately Spanish owned BAA. Also included will be topics
on
Climate Change caused by unconstrained demand for cheap air travel.
The newsgroup will not be moderated. Binary, off-topic, spam and
advertising posts are not permitted. Discussion of hacks, cracks,
warez, serial numbers or the illegal exchange of copyrighted software
is banned.
JUSTIFICATION: There is considerable local opposition to the proposed
expansion, this is especially due to the lies and deceits from the
Government (DfT), and Spanish-owned BAA / Ferrovial. There needs to
be
forum via which these people can voice their concerns int eh public
domain.
There is currently no one group devoted to Heathrow Airport. These
messages were spread across about a dozen newsgroups and a central
repository would be convenient.
Thank you.

once you get this off the ground, don't forget the monthly posting
guidelines with worst-case travel times to Gatwick along the one way
M25 slog.

[Joe Curry]

On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 19:26:10 +0000, in alt.airports.uk.edinburgh The

Post by The Voice of EDI
once you get this off the ground, don't forget the monthly posting
guidelines with worst-case travel times to Gatwick along the one way
M25 slog.

Or the anti brigade gang-banging genuine LHR aficionados, condoning
personal insults and back-patting so-called fellow elitists..The power
of pint-buying rules!

[Mister Niceguy]

news:88b15215-cfca-497d-9963-
..

alt.airports.uk.heathrow {tab} Heathrow Airport near London due to
have massive expansion in the next 20 years.
CHARTER: alt.airports.uk.heathrow discusses the proposed expansion of
Heathrow Airport over the next 20 or so tyears, including the
operating of Terminal 5, the new north / south railway link Airtrack,
the proposed Third Runway and Terminal 6 (necessitating the enforced
relocation of 35,00 or more local residents), and the involvment of
Ferrovial
the wholy privately Spanish owned BAA. Also included will be topics
on
Climate Change caused by unconstrained demand for cheap air travel.
The newsgroup will not be moderated. Binary, off-topic, spam and
advertising posts are not permitted. Discussion of hacks, cracks,
warez, serial numbers or the illegal exchange of copyrighted software
is banned.
JUSTIFICATION: There is considerable local opposition to the proposed
expansion, this is especially due to the lies and deceits from the
Government (DfT), and Spanish-owned BAA / Ferrovial. There needs to
be
forum via which these people can voice their concerns int eh public
domain.
There is currently no one group devoted to Heathrow Airport. These
messages were spread across about a dozen newsgroups and a central
repository would be convenient.
Thank you.

Hi
Sorry it just seems that you want to use the group to attack the
owners of BAA LHR. You have used this as your justification in
starting the newsgroup. Not very good IMHO.

Can we crosspost to it?

[John Dundas]

Post by Mister Niceguy

news:88b15215-cfca-497d-9963-
..

alt.airports.uk.heathrow {tab} Heathrow Airport near London due to
have massive expansion in the next 20 years.
CHARTER: alt.airports.uk.heathrow discusses the proposed expansion of
Heathrow Airport over the next 20 or so tyears, including the
operating of Terminal 5, the new north / south railway link Airtrack,
the proposed Third Runway and Terminal 6 (necessitating the enforced
relocation of 35,00 or more local residents), and the involvment of
Ferrovial
the wholy privately Spanish owned BAA. Also included will be topics
on
Climate Change caused by unconstrained demand for cheap air travel.
The newsgroup will not be moderated. Binary, off-topic, spam and
advertising posts are not permitted. Discussion of hacks, cracks,
warez, serial numbers or the illegal exchange of copyrighted software
is banned.
JUSTIFICATION: There is considerable local opposition to the proposed
expansion, this is especially due to the lies and deceits from the
Government (DfT), and Spanish-owned BAA / Ferrovial. There needs to
be
forum via which these people can voice their concerns int eh public
domain.
There is currently no one group devoted to Heathrow Airport. These
messages were spread across about a dozen newsgroups and a central
repository would be convenient.
Thank you.

Hi
Sorry it just seems that you want to use the group to attack the
owners of BAA LHR. You have used this as your justification in
starting the newsgroup. Not very good IMHO.

Can we crosspost to it?

Now thats a good question........

[Joe Curry]

On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 22:28:15 -0000, in alt.airports.uk.edinburgh

Post by John Dundas

Post by Mister Niceguy
Can we crosspost to it?

Now thats a good question........

I doubt any regular contributor would welcome Jim Mason's
crossposting?

[The Voice of EDI]

Post by Mister Niceguy
Can we crosspost to it?

only if it is justified retaliatory ridicule of course.

[Joe Curry]

On Tue, 18 Dec 2007 07:14:55 +0000, in alt.airports.uk.edinburgh The

Post by The Voice of EDI

Post by Mister Niceguy
Can we crosspost to it?

only if it is justified retaliatory ridicule of course.

Or ignoring blatant personal abuse?

[Callum Johnstone]

Post by Mister Niceguy

news:88b15215-cfca-497d-9963-
..

alt.airports.uk.heathrow {tab} Heathrow Airport near London due to
have massive expansion in the next 20 years.
CHARTER: alt.airports.uk.heathrow discusses the proposed expansion of
Heathrow Airport over the next 20 or so tyears, including the
operating of Terminal 5, the new north / south railway link Airtrack,
the proposed Third Runway and Terminal 6 (necessitating the enforced
relocation of 35,00 or more local residents), and the involvment of
Ferrovial
the wholy privately Spanish owned BAA. Also included will be topics
on
Climate Change caused by unconstrained demand for cheap air travel.
The newsgroup will not be moderated. Binary, off-topic, spam and
advertising posts are not permitted. Discussion of hacks, cracks,
warez, serial numbers or the illegal exchange of copyrighted software
is banned.
JUSTIFICATION: There is considerable local opposition to the proposed
expansion, this is especially due to the lies and deceits from the
Government (DfT), and Spanish-owned BAA / Ferrovial. There needs to
be
forum via which these people can voice their concerns int eh public
domain.
There is currently no one group devoted to Heathrow Airport. These
messages were spread across about a dozen newsgroups and a central
repository would be convenient.
Thank you.

Hi
Sorry it just seems that you want to use the group to attack the
owners of BAA LHR. You have used this as your justification in
starting the newsgroup. Not very good IMHO.

Can we crosspost to it?

As long as we "stick to LHR".

[Mister Niceguy]

Post by Callum Johnstone

Post by Mister Niceguy

news:88b15215-cfca-497d-9963-
..

alt.airports.uk.heathrow {tab} Heathrow Airport near London due to
have massive expansion in the next 20 years.
CHARTER: alt.airports.uk.heathrow discusses the proposed expansion of
Heathrow Airport over the next 20 or so tyears, including the
operating of Terminal 5, the new north / south railway link

Airtrack,

Post by Callum Johnstone

Post by Mister Niceguy

the proposed Third Runway and Terminal 6 (necessitating the

enforced

Post by Callum Johnstone

Post by Mister Niceguy

relocation of 35,00 or more local residents), and the involvment of
Ferrovial
the wholy privately Spanish owned BAA. Also included will be topics
on
Climate Change caused by unconstrained demand for cheap air travel.
The newsgroup will not be moderated. Binary, off-topic, spam and
advertising posts are not permitted. Discussion of hacks, cracks,
warez, serial numbers or the illegal exchange of copyrighted software
is banned.
JUSTIFICATION: There is considerable local opposition to the proposed
expansion, this is especially due to the lies and deceits from the
Government (DfT), and Spanish-owned BAA / Ferrovial. There needs to
be
forum via which these people can voice their concerns int eh public
domain.
There is currently no one group devoted to Heathrow Airport. These
messages were spread across about a dozen newsgroups and a central
repository would be convenient.
Thank you.

Hi
Sorry it just seems that you want to use the group to attack the
owners of BAA LHR. You have used this as your justification in
starting the newsgroup. Not very good IMHO.

Can we crosspost to it?

As long as we "stick to LHR".

Good set of answers guys. Let's wait and see what the prospective
moderator states...

[Joe Curry]

On Tue, 18 Dec 2007 07:29:15 GMT, in alt.airports.uk.edinburgh "Callum

Post by Callum Johnstone

Post by Mister Niceguy
Can we crosspost to it?

As long as we "stick to LHR".

Keeping the interminable weegie boasting/bragging out would be a good
idea?

[Joe Curry]

On 17 Dec 2007 22:21:42 GMT, in alt.airports.uk.edinburgh Mister

Post by Mister Niceguy

Post by John Dundas
Sorry it just seems that you want to use the group to attack the
owners of BAA LHR. You have used this as your justification in
starting the newsgroup. Not very good IMHO.

Can we crosspost to it?

Only if aaug regulars want to attack JC?

[Kingfisher]

Stop posting this crap to the humberside group.

Post by Mister Niceguy

news:88b15215-cfca-497d-9963-
..

alt.airports.uk.heathrow {tab} Heathrow Airport near London due to
have massive expansion in the next 20 years.
CHARTER: alt.airports.uk.heathrow discusses the proposed expansion of
Heathrow Airport over the next 20 or so tyears, including the
operating of Terminal 5, the new north / south railway link Airtrack,
the proposed Third Runway and Terminal 6 (necessitating the enforced
relocation of 35,00 or more local residents), and the involvment of
Ferrovial
the wholy privately Spanish owned BAA. Also included will be topics
on
Climate Change caused by unconstrained demand for cheap air travel.
The newsgroup will not be moderated. Binary, off-topic, spam and
advertising posts are not permitted. Discussion of hacks, cracks,
warez, serial numbers or the illegal exchange of copyrighted software
is banned.
JUSTIFICATION: There is considerable local opposition to the proposed
expansion, this is especially due to the lies and deceits from the
Government (DfT), and Spanish-owned BAA / Ferrovial. There needs to
be
forum via which these people can voice their concerns int eh public
domain.
There is currently no one group devoted to Heathrow Airport. These
messages were spread across about a dozen newsgroups and a central
repository would be convenient.
Thank you.

Hi
Sorry it just seems that you want to use the group to attack the
owners of BAA LHR. You have used this as your justification in
starting the newsgroup. Not very good IMHO.

Can we crosspost to it?

[j***@googlemail.com]

Post by Kingfisher
Stop posting this crap to the humberside group.

FU's set to exclude alt.airports.uk.glasgow..that should stop the
crap.. :-)

[Mister Niceguy]

Post by Kingfisher
Stop posting this crap to the humberside group.

This thread is ancient history - probably much like your presence in the
humberside group if it's taken you this long to read it.

Crap indeed. Keep up the crossposts Kingfisher.

Post by Kingfisher

Post by Mister Niceguy

news:88b15215-cfca-497d-9963-
..

alt.airports.uk.heathrow {tab} Heathrow Airport near London due to
have massive expansion in the next 20 years.
CHARTER: alt.airports.uk.heathrow discusses the proposed expansion of
Heathrow Airport over the next 20 or so tyears, including the
operating of Terminal 5, the new north / south railway link

Airtrack,

Post by Kingfisher

Post by Mister Niceguy

the proposed Third Runway and Terminal 6 (necessitating the

enforced

Post by Kingfisher

Post by Mister Niceguy

relocation of 35,00 or more local residents), and the involvment of
Ferrovial
the wholy privately Spanish owned BAA. Also included will be topics
on
Climate Change caused by unconstrained demand for cheap air travel.
The newsgroup will not be moderated. Binary, off-topic, spam and
advertising posts are not permitted. Discussion of hacks, cracks,
warez, serial numbers or the illegal exchange of copyrighted software
is banned.
JUSTIFICATION: There is considerable local opposition to the proposed
expansion, this is especially due to the lies and deceits from the
Government (DfT), and Spanish-owned BAA / Ferrovial. There needs to
be
forum via which these people can voice their concerns int eh public
domain.
There is currently no one group devoted to Heathrow Airport. These
messages were spread across about a dozen newsgroups and a central
repository would be convenient.
Thank you.

Hi
Sorry it just seems that you want to use the group to attack the
owners of BAA LHR. You have used this as your justification in
starting the newsgroup. Not very good IMHO.

Can we crosspost to it?

[Joe Curry]

On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 08:25:29 -0800 (PST), in

JUSTIFICATION: There is considerable local opposition to the proposed
expansion, this is especially due to the lies and deceits from the
Government (DfT), and Spanish-owned BAA / Ferrovial. There needs to
be
forum via which these people can voice their concerns int eh public
domain.

Sounds like an anti-aviation newsgroup to me.. Shouldn't this proposed
group be named alt.protest.uk.heathrow?

[Joe Curry]

On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 09:12:11 -0800 (PST), in alt.airports.uk.edinburgh

Post by John Dundas
Sorry it just seems that you want to use the group to attack the owners of
BAA LHR.

Hey, just like this one was created for...

alt.airports.uk.glasgow? Seems that's all the contributors there are
doing.

[Joe Curry]

On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 16:36:56 -0000, in alt.airports.uk.edinburgh "John

Post by John Dundas
Sorry it just seems that you want to use the group to attack the owners of
BAA LHR. You have used this as your justification in starting the newsgroup.
Not very good IMHO.

The proposal hardly belongs in the alt.airports.uk* hierarchy as such.

[Joe Curry]

On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 10:14:33 -0800 (PST), in alt.airports.uk.edinburgh

Post by John Dundas
Sorry it just seems that you want to use the group to attack the owners of
BAA LHR. You have used this as your justification in starting the newsgroup.
Not very good IMHO.

Well some could hijack it and make it pro-BOAC or whatever it is. I
would do.
LOROL!!

It will be hi-jacked alright..crossposted out of all recognition..

[Kingfisher]

Stop posting this crap here

Post by John Dundas

alt.airports.uk.heathrow {tab} Heathrow Airport near London due to
have massive expansion in the next 20 years.
CHARTER: alt.airports.uk.heathrow discusses the proposed expansion of
Heathrow Airport over the next 20 or so tyears, including the
operating of Terminal 5, the new north / south railway link Airtrack,
the proposed Third Runway and Terminal 6 (necessitating the enforced
relocation of 35,00 or more local residents), and the involvment of
Ferrovial
the wholy privately Spanish owned BAA. Also included will be topics
on
Climate Change caused by unconstrained demand for cheap air travel.
The newsgroup will not be moderated. Binary, off-topic, spam and
advertising posts are not permitted. Discussion of hacks, cracks,
warez, serial numbers or the illegal exchange of copyrighted software
is banned.
JUSTIFICATION: There is considerable local opposition to the proposed
expansion, this is especially due to the lies and deceits from the
Government (DfT), and Spanish-owned BAA / Ferrovial. There needs to
be
forum via which these people can voice their concerns int eh public
domain.
There is currently no one group devoted to Heathrow Airport. These
messages were spread across about a dozen newsgroups and a central
repository would be convenient.
Thank you.

Hi
Sorry it just seems that you want to use the group to attack the owners of
BAA LHR. You have used this as your justification in starting the
newsgroup. Not very good IMHO.

[John Reid]

Post by Kingfisher
Stop posting this crap here

Did you notice the posting date of the OP?

Post by Kingfisher
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 08:25:29 -0800 (PST)

Did you notice the posting date of the first replies?

Post by Kingfisher
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 16:36:56 -0000

Do you know the date today?

Sunday 18th May 2008

Clearly you are still unable to understand how usenet works. Thanks for
confirming this.

[Jim Mason]

In article <***@nospam.demon.co.uk>, ***@nospam.demon.co.uk
says...

Post by John Reid

Post by Kingfisher
Stop posting this crap here

Did you notice the posting date of the OP?

Post by Kingfisher
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 08:25:29 -0800 (PST)

Did you notice the posting date of the first replies?

Post by Kingfisher
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 16:36:56 -0000

Do you know the date today?
Sunday 18th May 2008
Clearly you are still unable to understand how usenet works. Thanks for
confirming this.

He also seemed to have difficulty a while back realising that claiming he
was in the UK whilst still posting from a US Verizon IP address would make
him look even more silly than it did when he claimed he has friends in high
places in the US Police system - when in fact he is a collector of PC cap
badges and subject to the sort of ridicule normally associated with cranks
of his type.

How are your visits to the US going John? I recall they were going to be
subjected to severe scrutinty due to the cap badge collectors contacts?

I believe the reference to his further action via the `FEDS` is still on
Yappers as well. I am surprised the administrators allow such postings.

[John Reid]

Jim Mason wrote in message

Post by Jim Mason
says...

Post by John Reid

Post by Kingfisher
Stop posting this crap here

Did you notice the posting date of the OP?

Post by Kingfisher
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 08:25:29 -0800 (PST)

Did you notice the posting date of the first replies?

Post by Kingfisher
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 16:36:56 -0000

Do you know the date today?
Sunday 18th May 2008
Clearly you are still unable to understand how usenet works. Thanks for
confirming this.

He also seemed to have difficulty a while back realising that claiming he
was in the UK whilst still posting from a US Verizon IP address would make
him look even more silly than it did when he claimed he has friends in high
places in the US Police system - when in fact he is a collector of PC cap
badges and subject to the sort of ridicule normally associated with cranks
of his type.
How are your visits to the US going John? I recall they were going to be
subjected to severe scrutinty due to the cap badge collectors contacts?
I believe the reference to his further action via the `FEDS` is still on
Yappers as well. I am surprised the administrators allow such postings.

Funny you should ask that. Since the matters you mention took place I
have enjoyed (I think) five visits or so to the United States, one of
which was a transit. I have been welcomed warmly every time and
thoroughly enjoyed the visits. One of the visits was immediate following
the threats. No special scrutiny was made of me (as I expected) and
indeed the new arrangements for fingerprints and the like seem to have
speeded up the process of entry. I think his claims were silly and quite
ridiculous (as you mention). I didn't realise he was a collector.

The "FEDS" have certainly never been even in touch with me, nor any
"agent" of any sort, despite the claims made. I remain available to
assist in any proceedings of any sort, as would any other law abiding
citizen. If he is telling lies in other places, there is little we can
do to help that, but he should not be doing so!

[Kingfisher]

Nothing silly about me, I was in the UK but had family here looking after
our house, and posting stuff on the newsgroups. I know you don't believe
that, but thats your problem.

Post by Jim Mason
says...

Post by John Reid

Post by Kingfisher
Stop posting this crap here

Did you notice the posting date of the OP?

Post by Kingfisher
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 08:25:29 -0800 (PST)

Did you notice the posting date of the first replies?

Post by Kingfisher
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 16:36:56 -0000

Do you know the date today?
Sunday 18th May 2008
Clearly you are still unable to understand how usenet works. Thanks for
confirming this.

He also seemed to have difficulty a while back realising that claiming he
was in the UK whilst still posting from a US Verizon IP address would make
him look even more silly than it did when he claimed he has friends in high
places in the US Police system - when in fact he is a collector of PC cap
badges and subject to the sort of ridicule normally associated with cranks
of his type.
How are your visits to the US going John? I recall they were going to be
subjected to severe scrutinty due to the cap badge collectors contacts?
I believe the reference to his further action via the `FEDS` is still on
Yappers as well. I am surprised the administrators allow such postings.