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RYANAIR CALLS ON AER LINGUS TO ABOLISH ITS FUEL SURCHARGES
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Jim Mason
2007-01-19 16:02:44 UTC
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18.01.07
RYANAIR CALLS ON AER LINGUS TO ABOLISH ITS FUEL SURCHARGES AS OIL PRICES
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Ryanair, Ireland's biggest airline today (Thursday, 18th January 2007)
called upon Aer Lingus to abolish its EUR40/$45 each way fuel surcharge on
its long haul flights.

This surcharge was first announced on 21st April 2006 when oil was at
$74 a barrel, it is not justified, warranted or sustainable now that oil
prices have fallen by almost 30% to $52/$53 per barrel today. Aer Lingus
should explain why it is still charging a EUR40/$45 one way fuel surcharge
(which was imposed when oil prices were $74 a barrel) when current oil
prices are almost 30% lower.

Aer Lingus' Chief Executive, confirmed in his press release of 21st April
2006 (see attached) that "Aer Lingus will continue to monitor the cost of
fuel prices and will revisit its approach to surcharges should the cost of
fuel decrease". Well, oil prices are 30% lower than they were last April so
it's time to scrap Aer Lingus' fuel surcharges.

Calling on Aer Lingus to end what Ryanair believes is a fuel surcharges
scam, Ryanair's Head of Communications, Peter Sherrard, said:

"We believe there was no justification for Aer Lingus imposing fuel
surcharges only on longhaul flights last year, particularly when no
surcharges were levied on their shorthaul flights which accounts for 85% of
their traffic. These surcharges suggest Aer Lingus' abuse of its dominant
position on longhaul flights to and from Ireland.

"Aer Lingus should abolish these fuel surcharges now that oil prices have
fallen 30% below the levels they were at in April 2006, when Aer Lingus
first introduced them. It's time for Aer Lingus to keep its word and
"revisit" these surcharges now that oil prices have fallen from $74 last
April to $53 per barrel today.

"As Ryanair is the only airline across Europe to guarantee no fuel
surcharges today, tomorrow or ever, we again call on Aer Lingus and other
European airlines to scrap these unnecessary and unjustified fuel
surcharges charges".

Air Lingus PDF

http://www.ryanair.com/site/news/releases/2007/docs/gen-en-180107.pdf
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Jim Mason
2007-01-19 16:30:08 UTC
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18.01.07
RYANAIR CALLS ON AER LINGUS TO ABOLISH ITS FUEL SURCHARGES AS OIL PRICES
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Ryanair, Ireland's biggest airline today (Thursday, 18th January 2007)
called upon Aer Lingus to abolish its EUR40/$45 each way fuel surcharge on
its long haul flights.
I wonder if Air Lingus charge a luggage supplement?

Jim
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Zippy
2007-01-19 17:10:52 UTC
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I wonder if Air Lingus charge a luggage supplement?
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AER Lingus introduced one just the other day IIRC ... with little or no
notice to it's customers.
John Dundas
2007-01-19 20:27:30 UTC
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18.01.07
RYANAIR CALLS ON AER LINGUS TO ABOLISH ITS FUEL SURCHARGES AS OIL PRICES
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Ryanair, Ireland's biggest airline today (Thursday, 18th January 2007)
called upon Aer Lingus to abolish its EUR40/$45 each way fuel
surcharge on
its long haul flights.
Ryanair DONT fly long haul. What the hell has it got to do with them?

Also if you look at what both airlines charge:

Ryanair Baggage Allowance - 15kg per person
Aer Lingus Baggage Allowance - 20kg per person

Ryanair Infant baggage allowance - 0kg
Aer Lingus Infant baggage allowance - 10kg

Ryanair Baggage checkin cost online - 4.50 euros
Aer Lingus baggage checkin cost online - 4 euros

Ryanair Baggage checkin at airport - 10 euros
Aer Lingus baggage checkin at airport - 8 euros

Ryanair Baggage excess charge per kg - 8 euros
Aer Lingus baggage excess charege per kg - 8 euros

So actually even though Aer Lingus have put a charge on baggage they
are STILL cheaper than Ryanair by a lot. So if you have a 20kg bag
then check it in online it going to cost you 8 euros plus an
additional 40euros so thats a total of 48 euros. With Aer Lingus its
only 8 euros. So with a return trip your *** 80 EUROS *** better off
flying with Aer Lingus that Ryanair.

Now if your travelling with an infant then Ryanair will rack the money
in. I have never noticed this before:

INFANT FEE £7.00 EACH WAY and with no INFANT ALLOWANCE your going get
hammered with the excess baggage charges.

So if you a couple with a child traveling to Dublin from the central
belt you better dig deep into your pockets

regards
Flying Rat
2007-01-20 12:19:44 UTC
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Ryanair DONT fly long haul. What the hell has it got to do with them?
Ryanair also happen to be a substantial shareholder in Aer Lingus from
their failed takeover bid
John Dundas
2007-01-20 17:07:17 UTC
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Ryanair DONT fly long haul. What the hell has it got to do with them?
Ryanair also happen to be a substantial shareholder in Aer Lingus from
their failed takeover bid
We all know the games that MOL and his board like to play. They did
the same thing attacking BA for the transatlantic fuel surcharge but
forgot to mention when they stated that they will not put on a fuel
surcharge that they dont fly transatlantic, but who cares its just
playing with words.

Anyway FR will tax you in another way, even more so if you are a
family with an infant. I also wonder how much profit they make off the
wheelchair levy that they make everyone pay?
Sunshine On Leith
2007-01-20 20:02:33 UTC
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Anyway FR will tax you in another way, even more so if you are a
family with an infant. I also wonder how much profit they make off the
wheelchair levy that they make everyone pay?
I booked flights in this week's giveaway FR promotion. Total one way
cost for two adults and one child (3yr old) 6p return, including taxes
for the three of us. Total cost for our 4 month old infant £14. Now, I
ain't complaining, because the charge for an infant is still the same if
the oneway fare is £100.

BTW the total cost for the 4 of us was just under £30 when the bags were
counted. The infant fare includes hold carriage of a buggy. Not too
shabby, IMO.

Not a wheelchair levy in sight either, I assume that they absorbed this,
along with the usual taxes this week.
Doug Maclean
2007-01-20 22:57:49 UTC
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Anyway FR will tax you in another way, even more so if you are a family
with an infant. I also wonder how much profit they make off the
wheelchair levy that they make everyone pay?
I booked flights in this week's giveaway FR promotion. Total one way cost
for two adults and one child (3yr old) 6p return, including taxes for the
three of us. Total cost for our 4 month old infant £14. Now, I ain't
complaining, because the charge for an infant is still the same if the
oneway fare is £100.
BTW the total cost for the 4 of us was just under £30 when the bags were
counted. The infant fare includes hold carriage of a buggy. Not too
shabby, IMO.
Not a wheelchair levy in sight either, I assume that they absorbed this,
along with the usual taxes this week.
Just booked 2 seats return PIK to Oslo. £16 including all charges.

Match that BA or Aer Lingus !!!
John Dundas
2007-01-20 23:29:40 UTC
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Just booked 2 seats return PIK to Oslo. £16 including all charges.
Match that BA or Aer Lingus !!!
And how much is it to Dublin next week with case for clothes and also
tool case then Doug?
Sunshine On Leith
2007-01-21 07:59:02 UTC
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Anyway FR will tax you in another way, even more so if you are a family
with an infant. I also wonder how much profit they make off the
wheelchair levy that they make everyone pay?
I booked flights in this week's giveaway FR promotion. Total one way cost
for two adults and one child (3yr old) 6p return, including taxes for the
three of us. Total cost for our 4 month old infant £14. Now, I ain't
complaining, because the charge for an infant is still the same if the
oneway fare is £100.
BTW the total cost for the 4 of us was just under £30 when the bags were
counted. The infant fare includes hold carriage of a buggy. Not too
shabby, IMO.
Not a wheelchair levy in sight either, I assume that they absorbed this,
along with the usual taxes this week.
Just booked 2 seats return PIK to Oslo. £16 including all charges.
Match that BA or Aer Lingus !!!
exactly. It's easy to forget the prising landscape before the lowcosters
came along.
John Dundas
2007-01-21 09:42:02 UTC
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Post by Sunshine On Leith
exactly. It's easy to forget the prising landscape before the
lowcosters came along.
Nope I don't forget at all. I just look at it from a different
viewpoint. Not as a leisure traveller but as a business traveller and
I know that its going to cost me.
Sunshine On Leith
2007-01-21 09:52:09 UTC
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exactly. It's easy to forget the prising landscape before the
lowcosters came along.
Nope I don't forget at all. I just look at it from a different
viewpoint. Not as a leisure traveller but as a business traveller and
I know that its going to cost me.
It's a lot cheaper to fly today as a business traveller than it was when
I started out in the mid 90s. FR (and the other lowcosters) are the
reason for this.

Sure, they'll charge the earcth for a flight today or tomorrow, but
they'd be foolish not to. I've just looked at a price for a flight with
FR to Dublin this week, over on Tuesday AM, back on Wednesday for £60.
Another £7 for a bag. Not too shabby. That used to cost me £160 when EI
were the only show in town back in the old days.

I'll throw away a ticket to Cologne for travel this week. It cost less
than £40. That's a business viewpoint.
John Dundas
2007-01-21 09:56:52 UTC
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Post by Sunshine On Leith
It's a lot cheaper to fly today as a business traveller than it was
when I started out in the mid 90s. FR (and the other lowcosters) are
the reason for this.
I agree with this and good old Freddy started it all years ago, but
Stelios was the man that made a lot of it happen.
Post by Sunshine On Leith
Sure, they'll charge the earcth for a flight today or tomorrow, but
they'd be foolish not to. I've just looked at a price for a flight
with FR to Dublin this week, over on Tuesday AM, back on Wednesday
for £60. Another £7 for a bag. Not too shabby. That used to cost me
£160 when EI were the only show in town back in the old days.
Ah but EI are now very competative on the routes. Folk should not take
it for granted that the so called low costs are that low costs at
times.
Post by Sunshine On Leith
I'll throw away a ticket to Cologne for travel this week. It cost
less than £40. That's a business viewpoint.
I will be in Dublin from Tue thru to Fri. Where about are you staying?
I will be at the CP at the airport. I did notice your trip to CP
Cologne. That calendar seems to be doing well......
Sunshine On Leith
2007-01-21 14:06:56 UTC
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Post by Sunshine On Leith
It's a lot cheaper to fly today as a business traveller than it was
when I started out in the mid 90s. FR (and the other lowcosters) are
the reason for this.
I agree with this and good old Freddy started it all years ago, but
Stelios was the man that made a lot of it happen.
did Freddy Laker do anything on domestic or short haul?
Post by John Dundas
Post by Sunshine On Leith
Sure, they'll charge the earcth for a flight today or tomorrow, but
they'd be foolish not to. I've just looked at a price for a flight
with FR to Dublin this week, over on Tuesday AM, back on Wednesday
for £60. Another £7 for a bag. Not too shabby. That used to cost me
£160 when EI were the only show in town back in the old days.
Ah but EI are now very competative on the routes. Folk should not take
it for granted that the so called low costs are that low costs at
times.
true. EI are quite cheap now, for instance. Their timings from EDI
aren't useful for work though.
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Post by Sunshine On Leith
I'll throw away a ticket to Cologne for travel this week. It cost
less than £40. That's a business viewpoint.
I will be in Dublin from Tue thru to Fri. Where about are you staying?
I will be at the CP at the airport.
probably at my mum's on the other side of town. Will find out if the
trip is on tomorrow. If there's any chance of meeting up I'll drop you a
line.


I did notice your trip to CP
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Cologne. That calendar seems to be doing well......
yup, it's a useful resource alright. I'll need to remove my cancelled stay.
Sunshine On Leith
2007-01-22 18:34:13 UTC
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probably at my mum's on the other side of town. Will find out if the
trip is on tomorrow. If there's any chance of meeting up I'll drop you a
line.
no Dublin this week :( Off to Stansted tomorrow instead :(((( To add to
the disappointment. my meeting is too early to take the train.
John Dundas
2007-01-22 19:39:37 UTC
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Post by Sunshine On Leith
probably at my mum's on the other side of town. Will find out if
the trip is on tomorrow. If there's any chance of meeting up I'll
drop you a line.
no Dublin this week :( Off to Stansted tomorrow instead :(((( To add
to the disappointment. my meeting is too early to take the train.
Well my trip to Dublin is still on for tomorrow plus looks like a trip
to Birmingham next week. Oh the joys
Kingfisher
2007-01-23 15:55:24 UTC
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No crossposts please!!
Post by Sunshine On Leith
Post by Sunshine On Leith
probably at my mum's on the other side of town. Will find out if the
trip is on tomorrow. If there's any chance of meeting up I'll drop you a
line.
no Dublin this week :( Off to Stansted tomorrow instead :(((( To add to
the disappointment. my meeting is too early to take the train.
Well my trip to Dublin is still on for tomorrow plus looks like a trip to
Birmingham next week. Oh the joys
Jim Mason
2007-01-23 15:57:15 UTC
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Post by Kingfisher
Post by Sunshine On Leith
Post by Sunshine On Leith
probably at my mum's on the other side of town. Will find out if the
trip is on tomorrow. If there's any chance of meeting up I'll drop you a
line.
no Dublin this week :( Off to Stansted tomorrow instead :(((( To add to
the disappointment. my meeting is too early to take the train.
Well my trip to Dublin is still on for tomorrow plus looks like a trip to
Birmingham next week. Oh the joys
No crossposts please!!
Why not? You have no authority to insist one way or another.

Jim
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