Irish refused bombs sent to Prestwick airport

[Jim Mason]

Irish refused bombs sent to Prestwick airport

EDDIE BARNES AND MURDO MACLEOD, Scotland On Sunday, 30/07/06

BOMBS destined to be used by Israel are being flown via Scotland only
because the Irish government refused to allow them to land on its soil.

Scotland on Sunday can reveal that after the conflict in Lebanon began
three weeks ago, Ireland turned down a United States request for planes
carrying 600lb so-called bunker busters to refuel at Shannon airport in Co
Clare.

As a result, cargo planes carrying the bombs, which the Israeli army is
using in its offensive against the Hezbollah, are being flown via Prestwick
airport in Ayrshire.

The use of Prestwick triggered a furious diplomatic row last week after it
emerged that the US had broken aviation rules by failing to notify Britain
about the flights.

Full article at

http://scotlandonsunday.scotsman.com/index.cfm?id=1104532006

which is ©2006 Scotsman.com

Extract posted with kind permission of the Scotsman Group Syndications
Dept.

[Jim Mason]

Post by Jim Mason
Irish refused bombs sent to Prestwick airport
EDDIE BARNES AND MURDO MACLEOD, Scotland On Sunday, 30/07/06
BOMBS destined to be used by Israel are being flown via Scotland only
because the Irish government refused to allow them to land on its soil.

How much blood do Blair and Co have to have on their hands before they show
even the slightest bit of concern? Hats off to the Irish. Their refusal to
bow down to the US is commendable and is something we should have done
decades ago.

Jim

[The EDI Guy]

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Post by Jim Mason
Irish refused bombs sent to Prestwick airport
EDDIE BARNES AND MURDO MACLEOD, Scotland On Sunday, 30/07/06
BOMBS destined to be used by Israel are being flown via Scotland only
because the Irish government refused to allow them to land on its soil.

How much blood do Blair and Co have to have on their hands before they show
even the slightest bit of concern? Hats off to the Irish. Their refusal to
bow down to the US is commendable and is something we should have done
decades ago.
Jim

I don't think they (Irish Govt) are as squeaky clean in this as the
article makes out - the article points out that over 900 soldiers a day
move through the place, and that's just the beginning of it.

The protests planning to close down SNN are quite real, led by a very
active Anti War movement (http://warontrial.com/) - 5 of their members
(including a Scot) were acquitted last week of causing material damage
with axes, no less, to US military aircraft. They have threatened to do
all sorts to the place if the military flights continue.

[honest man]

with respect you are totally wrong about shannon theres loads of us mil
go through there and troops

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Post by Jim Mason
Irish refused bombs sent to Prestwick airport
EDDIE BARNES AND MURDO MACLEOD, Scotland On Sunday, 30/07/06
BOMBS destined to be used by Israel are being flown via Scotland only
because the Irish government refused to allow them to land on its soil.

How much blood do Blair and Co have to have on their hands before they show
even the slightest bit of concern? Hats off to the Irish. Their refusal to
bow down to the US is commendable and is something we should have done
decades ago.
Jim
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Post by Jim Mason
Irish refused bombs sent to Prestwick airport
EDDIE BARNES AND MURDO MACLEOD, Scotland On Sunday, 30/07/06
BOMBS destined to be used by Israel are being flown via Scotland only
because the Irish government refused to allow them to land on its soil.

How much blood do Blair and Co have to have on their hands before they show
even the slightest bit of concern? Hats off to the Irish. Their refusal to
bow down to the US is commendable and is something we should have done
decades ago.

with respect you are totally wrong about shannon theres loads of us mil
go through there and troops

With respect I was referring to the flights diverted to Prestwick and
nothing else.

Jim

[honest man]

what flights diverted to prestwick the irish link is bull they never
intended going there in the first place the press is right of order
with people who dont know what they are talking about

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Post by honest man

Post by Jim Mason

Post by Jim Mason
Irish refused bombs sent to Prestwick airport
EDDIE BARNES AND MURDO MACLEOD, Scotland On Sunday, 30/07/06
BOMBS destined to be used by Israel are being flown via Scotland only
because the Irish government refused to allow them to land on its soil.

How much blood do Blair and Co have to have on their hands before they show
even the slightest bit of concern? Hats off to the Irish. Their refusal to
bow down to the US is commendable and is something we should have done
decades ago.

with respect you are totally wrong about shannon theres loads of us mil
go through there and troops

With respect I was referring to the flights diverted to Prestwick and
nothing else.
Jim
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Post by Jim Mason
With respect I was referring to the flights diverted to Prestwick and
nothing else.

(top posting corrected)

Post by honest man
what flights diverted to prestwick the irish link is bull they never
intended going there in the first place the press is right of order
with people who dont know what they are talking about

It depends on what papers you read and what politicians you listen to.

Whatever way you look at it - it is a disgrace this goverment is allowing
this country to be party to yet more US sponsored atrocities. The sooner
the use of our airspace and airports becomes a devolved matter the better.
If Tony is so keen to help out his mate - let the bomb filled flights
refuel at Heathrow - and see what sort of a reaction that gets.

Jim

[Mister Niceguy]

Post by Jim Mason

Post by honest man

Post by Jim Mason
With respect I was referring to the flights diverted to Prestwick
and nothing else.

(top posting corrected)

Post by honest man
what flights diverted to prestwick the irish link is bull they never
intended going there in the first place the press is right of order
with people who dont know what they are talking about

It depends on what papers you read and what politicians you listen to.
Whatever way you look at it - it is a disgrace this goverment is
allowing this country to be party to yet more US sponsored atrocities.
The sooner the use of our airspace and airports becomes a devolved
matter the better. If Tony is so keen to help out his mate - let the
bomb filled flights refuel at Heathrow - and see what sort of a
reaction that gets.

<drifting off topic>

For years I've held the same arguement about nuclear power stations.

[Mister Niceguy]

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Post by Jim Mason
Irish refused bombs sent to Prestwick airport
EDDIE BARNES AND MURDO MACLEOD, Scotland On Sunday, 30/07/06
BOMBS destined to be used by Israel are being flown via Scotland only
because the Irish government refused to allow them to land on its soil.

How much blood do Blair and Co have to have on their hands before they
show even the slightest bit of concern? Hats off to the Irish. Their
refusal to bow down to the US is commendable and is something we
should have done decades ago.
Jim

Agreed. The Israeli army has been using weapons against civilians and
we're part of its logistics.

[dagspot]

Post by Mister Niceguy
using weapons against civilians and
we're part of its logistics.

Im not sure you can be 100% sure they are "using weapons against civilians"
deliberately.
Anyway- I dont think thats for this newsgroup.

[Mister Niceguy]

Post by dagspot

Post by Mister Niceguy
using weapons against civilians and
we're part of its logistics.

Im not sure you can be 100% sure they are "using weapons against
civilians" deliberately.
Anyway- I dont think thats for this newsgroup.

Maybe not. But we are aligning ourselves with the Israeli army, whatever
the implications.

[Bryan]

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Post by dagspot

Post by Mister Niceguy
using weapons against civilians and
we're part of its logistics.

Im not sure you can be 100% sure they are "using weapons against
civilians" deliberately.
Anyway- I dont think thats for this newsgroup.

Maybe not. But we are aligning ourselves with the Israeli army, whatever
the implications.

I wouldn't totally agree with you, you make no mention of the role of
Hizbollah and the part played by Iran and Syria. These people are world
experts at turning the world against Israel. I should say I am not trying to
justify what the Israelis are doing, just pointing out that there are two
sides in this conflict.

[Mister Niceguy]

Post by Bryan

Post by Mister Niceguy

Post by dagspot

Post by Mister Niceguy
using weapons against civilians and
we're part of its logistics.

Im not sure you can be 100% sure they are "using weapons against
civilians" deliberately.
Anyway- I dont think thats for this newsgroup.

Maybe not. But we are aligning ourselves with the Israeli army,
whatever the implications.

I wouldn't totally agree with you, you make no mention of the role of
Hizbollah and the part played by Iran and Syria. These people are
world experts at turning the world against Israel. I should say I am
not trying to justify what the Israelis are doing, just pointing out
that there are two sides in this conflict.

Yes, Hizbollah are indeed causing trouble and they should expect the
consequences. What concerns me is the indiscriminate way in which the
Israelis are bombing civilians in Lebanon and Gaza. If Hizbollah were
operating on Israeli/Jewish soil I doubt very much that Israel would be
bombing those areas.

I agree that Israel can and should defend itself but I cannot defend the
mass murder of civilians to achieve that aim. We may never know exactly
what was on those Atlas flights but just imagine for a moment that they
were carrying ammunition for the bombing raid on Qana.

Let's be more local, shall we? Let's say that a Loyalist faction is
firing bombs at Dublin from a suburb of Glasgow. Would you defend the
right of the Irish army to bomb that Glasgow suburb killing 100s of
Glaswegians and perhaps a few loyalist paramilitaries?

[Jim Mason]

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Post by Mister Niceguy

Post by Bryan
I wouldn't totally agree with you

Yes, Hizbollah are indeed causing trouble and they should expect the
consequences.
Let's be more local, shall we? Let's say that a Loyalist faction is
firing bombs at Dublin from a suburb of Glasgow. Would you defend the
right of the Irish army to bomb that Glasgow suburb killing 100s of
Glaswegians and perhaps a few loyalist paramilitaries?

Indeed. But personally I believe once again the situation is much simpler
than Bryan or yourself describe.

Israel has little or no oil reserves - they have to rely on importing the
vast majority of their oil. Lebanon have fairly recently announced the
discovery of massive reserves in their jurisdiction. Simple as that.

Jim

[Mister Niceguy]

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Post by Mister Niceguy

Post by Bryan
I wouldn't totally agree with you

Yes, Hizbollah are indeed causing trouble and they should expect the
consequences.
Let's be more local, shall we? Let's say that a Loyalist faction is
firing bombs at Dublin from a suburb of Glasgow. Would you defend
the right of the Irish army to bomb that Glasgow suburb killing 100s
of Glaswegians and perhaps a few loyalist paramilitaries?

Indeed. But personally I believe once again the situation is much
simpler than Bryan or yourself describe.
Israel has little or no oil reserves - they have to rely on importing
the vast majority of their oil. Lebanon have fairly recently announced
the discovery of massive reserves in their jurisdiction. Simple as
that.

That sounds like the conspiracy theory along the lines of the Iraq
invasion theories. Time will tell.

[Jim Mason]

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Post by Mister Niceguy

Post by Jim Mason

Post by Mister Niceguy
Let's be more local, shall we? Let's say that a Loyalist faction is
firing bombs at Dublin from a suburb of Glasgow. Would you defend
the right of the Irish army to bomb that Glasgow suburb killing 100s
of Glaswegians and perhaps a few loyalist paramilitaries?

Indeed. But personally I believe once again the situation is much
simpler than Bryan or yourself describe.
Israel has little or no oil reserves - they have to rely on importing
the vast majority of their oil. Lebanon have fairly recently announced
the discovery of massive reserves in their jurisdiction. Simple as
that.

That sounds like the conspiracy theory along the lines of the Iraq
invasion theories. Time will tell.

It is fact. Whether or not it is the underlying reason for the atrocities
being committed - as you say - only time will tell.

Jim